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I'm Rebecca LaVoy and this is Crime Riders on the podcast about other podcasts and also about journalism, pop culture, true crime.

And this week we're back after a whole bunch of stuff went down we'll get around the horn for all the latest true crime updates about bow burgdoll a potential serial season three.

My trip to visit the undisclosed crew and more will also get into one of the most popular new crime podcasts out there missing and murdered who killed Alberta Williams.

Joining me to get that done is the host of these are their stories the law and order podcast my true crime co author and real life husband Kevin Flynn hello Kevin.

Rebecca just because we were off the air for two weeks doesn't mean you should leave the house for two weeks and leave me alone here.

You talk about it.

I was very lonely.

We were I wasn't away for two weeks not that long and also joining us is journalist true crime author former defense investigator licensed PI certified cat lady.

On her deathbed this evening Laura brick or good evening Laura.

Thanks Rebecca you inspired me when you were sick and you went on so taken one for the team tonight show must go on exactly and finally it's our favorite naysay or the amazing noir novelist Toby ball hello Toby how do they're little lady.

Toby been watching Westworld or something.

No.

Chefs man twenth nothing.

I just I realized I didn't have any foreign language.

I said it pretty foreign to me.

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