Good evening and welcome to Nighty Night with Robbie Achadri. Bedtime stories to keep you

awake. I'm DJ Lubel, the shows producer.

Tonight's episode, we continue our story behind the story episodes where Robbie

sits down with true crime expert Patrick Hines. Please enjoy.

Hi Nighty Night listeners and welcome back to the story behind the story series. This

week I am so excited to have on a guest that anybody who knows anything about the true

crime world is already familiar with. The one and only co-creator and host of the hit

show True Crime Obsessed. Patrick Hines. Patrick, welcome.

Thank you for having me. I'm so happy to see you. I feel like we only get to see each other

when we're like interviewing each other for each other's podcast.

We should do it like once a month just to make each other. I couldn't agree more.

Our listeners are not getting to see the visual aspect of this but we're getting to look

at each other's beautiful illuminated faces. Yes. Oh, you're so beautiful.

Oh, sorry you. It's good to see your face. Well, before we get started, I want, I just

want you to let me gush over everything you've done and who you are for a few minutes

for our listeners because truly it's phenomenal. You are just like this shooting star. It's

amazing what you've accomplished. I don't say all right. So I want to tell you guys

our listeners all about Patrick. He is a veteran podcaster because he started his career

in the industry as a creator of several esteemed Broadway podcasts, including theater people

and Broadway backstory. And Patrick, just so I can kind of put a pin in the timeline. Was

this before or after the big serial podcast boom? Oh, way before. So maybe not way like

a year, a couple of years before. Oh, that's way before. I mean, like that's before

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