Serial Killer John Wayne Gacy's Sister and Mass Murderer Jim Jones' Son Speak Out

The Oprah Winfrey Show: The Podcast

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Society & Culture

4.4 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 17 March 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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From February 17, 2010: Oprah talks to Jim Jones, Jr., the son of the notorious Peoples Temple leader, about the Jonestown Massacre, why he didn’t “drink the Kool-Aid,” and how sports saved his life. Karen Kuzma opens up publicly, for the first time, about her brother serial killer John Wayne Gacy. She recalls life as they were growing up, the phone call when he was arrested and his last hours before he was executed.

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0:00.0	Through 25 seasons, 4,561 episodes.
0:05.0	I believe the Oprah Winfrey show
0:08.0	was one of the greatest classrooms in the world.
0:10.0	I really never thought of it that way.
0:12.0	The aha moments, the breakthroughs, the connections,
0:16.0	the occasional ugly cry.
0:18.0	I'm missing so terribly, I miss it every single minute.
0:21.6	The LOLs.
0:22.6	The moments that mattered.
0:24.6	The eye-opening life lessons.
0:27.6	Never allow them to take you somewhere else.
0:30.6	I'm bringing them back.
0:32.6	It's time to open the vault.
0:34.6	I've personally chosen these classic episodes to share with you again.
0:40.2	Every single person you ever will meet shares that common desire.
0:45.1	They want to know, do you see me?
0:47.9	Do you hear me?
0:48.7	Does what I say mean anything to you?
0:52.6	You are listening to the Oprah Winfrey Show, the podcast.
0:58.6	We've all heard the expression, don't drink the Kool-Aid,
1:01.8	which means don't just go blindly along with the crowd.
1:05.4	Think for yourself.
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