You're in the Paracast.

You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.

And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

So we'll be talking with our special guest, Jason Gleaves.

He was on the Par powercast two years ago,

and he wasn't frightened off because he's willing to come back. Of course, our co-host is Tim Swartz.

Now, before we get started with our guests this week, I wanted to bring back a little bit of

discussion about our guest last week, Raymond Schimanski.

A really nice guy, he sent me a copy of one of his books, Swamp Gas, My, You Know What.

But in any case, he sent me a very nice note about how professional you and I were, Tim.

So that's good.

And of course, this is the last radio show he's going to do.

So therefore, he'll have nothing to say about what we're going to say.

I like talking to him, but I think he tended to be a little naive in some respects.

Tim, and maybe you agree with me.

Number one, this water cooler conversation at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base

where someone's talking about, you know, UFOs and everything,

that struck me as being a little too coincidental.

Did you take it seriously or what?

When you have employees at a place like that that, that aren't necessarily the military,

you know what I mean, just, you know, like a lifelong, you know, member of the Air Force

or whatever, but, you know, you've got scuttle butt. And I tell you something, I know that the years that when I worked in television and that we would go to the base to do stories, I mean, you know, people who we talk to a lot of times, I mean, UFOs and top secret type of black projects, especially laser weapons, because, you know, that was right at the pinnacle of Reagan's Star War technology push.

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