Another one is that Jones is at 27 now. New porcelain paving. Looks like Taralis Nordic. Everyone's going Nordic these days. Is the same fella doing it again? Ooh, dark bath. He's using Darkbath Seek a jointing compound. Betty's got a trade account at you, son. Terralis porcelain paving from £22 per square metre and seek a fast-fits jointing compound at 2999 each.

Plus, get 10% off if you buy two tubs.

All trade prices XVAT at 20%.

So now you can keep up with the Joneses.

And the Evanses. You're in the You're in the Paracast, the gold standard of paranormal radio.

And now, here's Gene Steinberg.

So my co-host, Tim Swartz and I, welcome Ray Shamansky to the Paracast.

And he's going to tell us about what may be the goings-on at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base,

that legendary place that maybe we first heard about back in the early days of the UFO field

and, of course, Major Donald Kehoe and people like that.

Or the possible connections with Roswell, Hangar 18. Who

knows? Ray, before we get started deep into this show, tell us something about your background.

How does one become a worker at Wright Patterson? I was at the University of Detroit, and I was studying electrical and electronics engineering.

I got a bachelor's of science in electrical and electronics engineering, so it's a five-year degree.

So they had a cooperative education agreement with the University of Detroit, and Detroit was a mechanical town. That was the automotive industry world headquarters. And they really weren't into computers yet. So double E's, that's electrical electronics engineering folks, basically had to leave the city after they got their degree because the automotive industry wasn't

really doing much at the time. So Wright-Petterson Air Force Base had disagreement with the University

of Detroit. You know, we had a small class. I think we only had, we probably graduated in

1975. We probably graduated about 20 double E's out of the engineering class. And so they were quite interested in us and the counselor for the university said,

hey, there's this great opportunity to do this work study at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.

It's about a three and a half hour drive.

It would be really good for you.

And they explained what the program was going to do.

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