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Background Briefing with Ian Masters

September 15, 2025 - Ben Burgis | Reverend Billy | Stephen Biddle

Background Briefing with Ian Masters

Ian Masters

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4.7622 Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Ben Burgis Who Debated Charlie Kirk on "Democratic Socialism vs. Conservative Populism" | Echoes of the 60's and 70's From Protest Songs Against Trump and MAGA Fascism | An Assessment of the Military Standoff Between Russia and Ukraine backgroundbriefing.org/donate twitter.com/ianmastersmedia bsky.app/profile/ianmastersmedia.bsky.social facebook.com/ianmastersmedia

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Background Briefing available 247 at Background Briefing.

0:18.0

I'm Ian Masters, and today we'll look into a number of stories and issues in the

0:21.3

news. We'll begin with the inflammatory narrative, Trump, Miller, and Vancey, continuing to push

0:27.0

that Charlie Kirk's assassin was acting on behalf of the Democratic Party and the radical left

0:33.0

financed by George Soros, when a much more personal motive appears to be emerging.

0:39.1

According to Utah's Republican governor, the 22-year-old shooter comes from a devout conservative family

0:45.1

and was living with a partner who was transitioning from male to female.

0:49.9

This raises the possibility that Kirk's cruel and hostile scapegoating of trans people,

0:55.7

which he was engaged in when he was shot, is more likely a motive.

1:00.9

Joining us is Ben Burgess, the host of the Give Them an Argument podcast and YouTube channel,

1:07.4

a professor at Rutgers University and a columnist for Jacobin.

1:10.8

His books include Give Them an Argument, Logic for the Left, Cancelling Comedians, While

1:15.0

the World Burns, a critique of the Contemporary Left, and Christopher Hitchens, what he got

1:19.9

right, how he went wrong, and why he still matters.

1:23.5

He debated Charlie Kirk on Democratic Socialism versus Conservative Populism,

1:29.3

and we'll discuss Ben's article with Megan Day at Jacobin.

1:33.1

Charlie Kirk's murder is a tragedy and a disaster.

1:37.1

Then we'll examine the latest protest songs against Trump and Maga Fascism

1:41.2

as a No King's Opposition movement is being mobilized across the country

1:45.9

and speak with William Tallinn, better known as the Reverend Billy, a pastor for the Church

1:52.0

of Stop Shopping, a group of activists based in New York City who protests consumerism and monoculture

1:58.7

through musical performance, including singing while trespassing.

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