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Today, Explained

Separation of church and church

Today, Explained

Vox

Daily News, Politics, News

4.4 • 9.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

Leaders of the United Methodist Church, one of the largest Christian denominations in the US, gathered in North Carolina to hash out a disagreement that’s dividing the church. Today, Explained’s Laura Bullard and church historian Ashley Boggan explain what the Methodist split tells us about America. This episode reported by Laura Bullard, produced by Amanda Lewellyn, edited by Matt Collette, fact-checked by Amina Al-Sadi, engineered by Patrick Boyd, and hosted by Noel King. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by making a financial contribution to Vox! vox.com/givepodcasts Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Back in 2019 the Methodist Church met to vote on the inclusion of its LGBT members.

0:07.0

The Methodists are thinking we have gays, we have a gay issue, we have queer people who are trying to get ordained. We have clergy

0:16.7

trying to perform same-sex marriages. The problem is none of this is is technically

0:22.1

allowed. The voting didn't go great.

0:25.0

The LGBT observers were locked out of the room and as the vote was happening you could hear their fists pounding on the doors.

0:35.0

But that vote, which was to continue excluding gay members, only narrowly passed, and about 25% of the more conservative U.S.

0:42.4

congregations saw the writing on the wall and they left the

0:45.6

denomination.

0:47.2

Then earlier this month, the Methodists voted on this question again, and today explained

0:51.8

was there for the debates, for the songs, for Methodist trivia night, and for the results.

0:57.0

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