From KCRW, I'm Kim Masters, and this is the business.

Writer director Joachim Trier's award-winning film, Sentimental Value, delves into the

fractured lives of a Norwegian family whose members have long worked on stage and screen.

If you've seen it, you know that the film also has something to say about a certain streamer.

Everyone thinks, oh, you're criticizing Netflix. And my point is that Ted Sarandos and his team

are actually making some really good films and works some good filmmakers, at least.

You know, I don't want to be the guy that throws out hate towards Netflix. I'm just like,

come on, everyone. We love the movies and theaters. Come on,

you know? Trier breaks down how he finances films in a way that allows him to keep creative

control and work with long shooting schedules and still have his investors come out ahead. He also

reveals that he broke his own no-begging-the-talent rule when he pleaded with Stellan Scarsgaard

to join the project. As you may have seen, Scarsgaard just picked up a golden globe for his performance.

But first we banter. It's the business from KCRW.

I am joined by my partner in banter, Matt Bellany. Hello, Matt.

Hi there. So I'm going to confess that due to certain

circumstances, I didn't actually get to see much of the Golden Globes, but apparently that is an

experience I share with many Americans. The ratings were down 7%. And the reviews were not good. There

was a lot of complaining that Hollywood looked like it was in its own bubble.

And there was just some general tackiness.

Well, the globes have always been a little tacky.

But I think adding gambling odds to kairons that showed during the show and encouraging people to gamble on the award show, it's pretty tacky. And that was a new element of the show and encouraging people to gamble on the award show.

It's pretty tacky.

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