Hello and welcome back to Close Streets here on the Close Streets Podcast Network.

I'm David Kern and I am joined by Heidi White and our very special guest, Karen Swallow

Prior.

Karen, Heidi, welcome back to the show.

Thanks, David.

It's good to be here.

So there's a lot going on, it turns out.

And, um, uh, you're like in the wilderness, right?

Well, right now I am sitting in my car outside of a brewery, which I drove down.

We're camping right now.

And our listeners know we're big campers.

And when I say camping,

I use the term with air quotes because we have like air conditioning in our camper and we bring like our suede and our dog and I have a puffy mattress. And so I mean, it's really just we have a

smaller house that we take with us to beautiful places.

You camp like Colonel Brandon, I imagine would have camped.

Yeah, and I'm great with that.

Like, I don't care who judges me for that.

I am comfortable.

I sleep well.

I have the best time.

So anyway, we drove into town so I could get Wi-Fi so I could record the podcast and we are sitting, I'm sitting outside a brewery on their Wi-Fi in my car because I love this book and I want to have this conversation.

So if all of a sudden she disappears, she probably got chased away by somebody at the brewery saying, why are you still on your Wi-Fi? Right. Or a bear. Yeah, or a bear. And Karen, you have a book coming out. Do you,

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