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The Daily Stoic

Seneca Explains The Art of Argument

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Education, 694393, Daily Stoic, Society & Culture, Stoic, Stoicism, Self-improvement, Business, Stoic Philosophy, Philosophy, Ryan Holiday

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🗓️ 13 July 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

In this letter, Seneca critiques sophistical argumentation, highlighting how it exercises wit without purpose and distracts from the essentials of living a good life. 


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0:00.0

Welcome to the weekend edition of the Daily Stoic podcast.

0:08.0

On Sundays, we take a deeper dive into these ancient topics with excerpts from the Stoic texts,

0:14.0

audiobooks that we like here or recommend here at Daily Stoic and other long-form wisdom that you can chew on on this relaxing

0:24.4

weekend. We hope this helps shape your understanding of this philosophy, and most importantly,

0:30.0

that you're able to apply it to your actual life. Thank you for listening.

0:44.2

Hey, it's Ryan.

0:50.1

Welcome to another Sunday episode of the Daily Stoic podcast.

0:52.9

I'm recording this right now from a balcony in Ithaca.

0:55.6

I wanted to see some of the sites from The Odyssey. We've been to Olympia. We're going on to the Delphi. We're going to see Marathon. We're going to

1:03.5

see the Battle of Thermopyla. We're visiting the philosophical sites, the historical sites.

1:08.1

We're making many of the same trips that the Romans said. And yet, I thought it was interesting. Donald Robertson pointed out that Seneca maybe hadn't done this,

1:16.6

which has given me something to think about. And that queues up today's episode. We've brought you chunks of this over the years.

1:25.6

Obviously, reading Seneca is great, but sometimes it can be great

1:28.8

to listen to him. And Tim Ferriss put together this awesome audiobook edition of Seneca called

1:35.2

the Dow of Seneca. This is going to be letter 45, which is on sophisticated argumentation.

1:43.3

And Seneca's talking about living authentically

1:45.3

according to nature's laws,

1:47.3

valuing virtue over material wealth,

1:50.7

and not pursuing those superficial goals.

1:53.8

We're going after what really matters,

1:56.1

which to him would be self-improvement,

1:58.0

character, good judgment, right?

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