This is Words Matter with Norm Ornstein.

Raphael Bornock as a result of this runoff is more of a national figure than he was before.

And Dr. Kavita Patel.

2024 does not look very good.

Hello and welcome to Words Matter from the DSR Network.

Each week Norm Ornstein and I will talk about the issues facing our countries. We came out of the midterms and are going into another election cycle.

And what are leaders are saying and doing about them?

Today, Norm, we've got quite a bit of terrain to cover.

We have the election results from Georgia.

We have Kristen Cinema's maybe not so surprising announcement, but something that came.

And then some other events in the week.

Why don't we go ahead and get started?

We're going to try to save maybe some of the cinema conversation for our members only content, but by note.

But no means do we need to avoid it.

So Norm, take me through what you were doing on Tuesday night.

I will just briefly share with you that there was a running bet between some of us who work in the Obama administration and some current Biden administration people.

It was very interesting where I was very nervous and as I was watching the returns and Steve Kornacki and his khakis on the leader board on MSNBC.

I continued to be nervous.

There was an eerie calm amongst the Biden folks where they just kind of felt like no, you know, we're not just going to win.

But no matter what was happening as Kornacki was at the board with like a 50-50 split, etc.

Tell me how you spent your Tuesday and what your thoughts were coming out of it.

Well, as I watched also, Kavita, I was not as nervous because I was also looking on Twitter, which still has some very good content.

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