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🗓️ 25 May 2025
⏱️ 62 minutes
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(0:00) Friedberg and Chamath welcome Senator Ron Johnson
(2:30) The Reconciliation Bill process, how much the Big, Beautiful Bill will add to the national debt
(14:33) Problems with growing our way out of debt, why elected officials are avoiding the fiscal reality
(24:53) Energy rescissions, future of DOGE
(32:09) How Senator Johnson will force a real review of the Big, Beautiful Bill; future of MAGA and the Conservative movement
(54:15) Next steps if the Big, Beautiful Bill passes
(58:35) Post-interview recap
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0:00.0 | Power corrupts. |
0:02.0 | Government is power and it's been corrupt. |
0:04.0 | Nobody knew in total how much we spend because we never even talk about it. |
0:09.0 | The first goal of this Republican budget reconciliation should be don't add to the deficit. |
0:15.0 | I voted for President Trump because I wanted him to defeat the deep state. |
0:19.0 | You don't defeat the deep state by continuing to fund it at Biden's levels. |
0:23.6 | Our base is going to go, why did we elect you guys? |
0:25.6 | You're really no better than Democrats. |
0:27.6 | I don't think President Trump, he's not focused on reducing spending. |
0:30.6 | This is our one opportunity. |
0:32.6 | And right now we're blowing it. |
0:34.6 | And I'm going to do everything I can to make sure we don't blow it. |
0:36.6 | I can't be pressured by President Trump. He's willing to sit down with me, look at the numbers, |
0:41.7 | acknowledge them, working forward in a reasonable plan forward. That's the only way he's going to get my |
0:46.5 | support. So everyone has assumed that the House passage of the reconciliation bill is going to go |
0:53.0 | to the Senate with some minor changes |
0:54.6 | and then make its way to President Trump's desk for signing. But that may not be the case. |
0:59.8 | There are several hardliners in the U.S. Senate who have made it very clear that the budget and the |
1:05.3 | fiscal deficit problems that arise from this bill are insurmountable, and they're going to |
1:10.2 | take a very hard stance on voting no on this bill. |
1:13.3 | Taking the lead on that point of view, |
1:15.0 | Senator Johnson from Wisconsin, |
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