Hi there, everyone. It's Four Clark in New York, a major legal development to tell you about today

in that standoff between six Democratic lawmakers, all of them, veterans of the U.S. military

or of national security agencies, who simply warned the men and women of the

military of their obligation to ignore any illegal orders. Oral arguments took place over defense

secretary Pete Hegseth's decision to censure one of those six, Senator Mark Kelly, a move that

would have stripped Kelly of rank and pay. Kelly won a preliminary injunction in court

in Hegeseth appealed, but today, before a three-judge panel, arguments did not appear to go

Team Trump's way. One judge, Judge Florence Pan, saying this to the Justice Department, quote,

these are people who serve their country. Many put their lives on the

line. And you're saying that they have to give up their retired status in order to say something

that is a textbook example taught at West Point and the Naval Academy, that you can disobey

illegal orders? Another judge, Judge Nina Pillard, saying this of Kelly's message in the video, quote, that is something that is taught at Annapolis to every cadet. He added this, quote, the text of the video, which I take to really be the fulcrum of this entire case, advises that service members have no obligation to obey unlawful orders.

Nobody in the video says service members have a duty to disobey lawful orders.

Here's a reminder of what Kelly and the others said in their video.

Like us, you all swore an oath.

To protect and defend this Constitution.

Right now, the threats to our

Constitution aren't just coming from abroad, but from right here at home. Our laws are clear. You can

refuse illegal orders. That was, that was, it was it. That was the gist of it. After the hearing

today, Senator Kelly flanked by veterans and his family,

including his wife, former congresswoman Gabby Giffords, had this to say.

They're trying to send a message to other retired veterans,

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