As Donald Trump returns to the White House and with Republicans in charge of both the House and the Senate, Democrats are searching for a way forward.

Ron Wyden, the second most senior Senate Democrat and a leading progressive voice, offers something of a strategy guide in his new book.

It takes Hutzpah, how to fight fearlessly for progressive change.

Amna Nawaz recently sat down with Wyden.

Thanks for being here.

Good to be with you.

So you write in this book a lot about your own family story as well,

of the child of Jewish refugees who escaped Nazi Germany in the 1930s,

how this all inspired the way that you live and work,

this idea of chutzpah being central to how you do your work for the uninformed among us.

How do you define it?

It is inherently good, and it is the indispensable instrument to have a better life in America. It's about grit, it's about nerve,

it's about taking on big odds. For example, I was just a kid who had sort of had my start

working with senior citizens after I was dreaming of playing in the NBA and that didn't work out.

And the senior citizen said, why don't you run for Congress?

And I was 29 years old.

I'd never run for student body eraser cleaner.

I had never done anything political.

But one of them said to me, looked at me and talked about Hutzpah.

She said, nobody, nobody could say no to their grandmother, and I got elected to Congress.

You do lay out how this value is really driven you over your four decades in Congress.

When you look where your party is right now, though, you've been just lost an election,

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