I'm Jonathan K. Parton, and this is K-Pup.

Marchers descended on Washington over the weekend to call for the protection of voting rights.

This comes after last week's House Passage of the John Lewis Voting Rights Advancement

Act, but that legislation is doomed to the same fate as the For the People Act, which

passed the House in March, and remains stalled in the Senate.

All thanks to the filibuster.

For more than a decade, Senator Jeff Murkley of Oregon has been trying to change the Senate's

filibuster rule.

In this conversation from March, Murkley gets into the ins and outs of this 60-vote rule

that has ground work in the Senate to a halt, and what do you think should be done to fix

it, especially to preserve voting rights, here at all, right now.

Senator Murkley, thank you very much for coming on the podcast.

You bet, Mr. Pleasure to be with you.

So from what I understand, you are in the Senate, in the Democratic Caucus, you're Mr.

filibuster reform.

You've been working on this, correct me if I'm wrong, since at least 2011, and from what

I've read you and then Senator Tom Udall had put forth a proposal, a filibuster reform

proposal, and nothing happened.

What was that proposal?

Well, in 2011, we put up a rule change that would have converted us as a Senate to the

talking filibuster, kind of restoring and strengthening the vision of debate in the Senate,

because after the 75 rule change, you ended up with this silent invisible obstruction,

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