So you were attorney general of the state of Missouri for four years, and you've been in the Senate for three?

Yeah, almost three.

Almost three.

What job was more powerful?

Well, I think the Senate is sort of the apex of how you can affect a number of things, but the Senate in many ways is kind of broken the way it's currently constituted.

And it's the, you know, proclaimed to be the world's most deliberative body, but it's a lot of its

kabuki theater, honestly. But I think in the time in which I served as Attorney General when you

had a Democrat president, you could affect a lot of things by challenging the extremism we saw from the Biden administration

in court and win. And you didn't need to ask anybody's permission for that. You could just make that

decision. You didn't need 50 other people to vote for it. So I think for me at that time,

it was just a critical moment in our country's history. And I just happened to be in that position at that time.

And you got to remember, too, I think, if you take a step back, President Trump was out of office.

And so this responsibility sort of fell to a relatively unknown group of people to kind of hold the line, which is why, you know, the last line of defense and how to beat the left in court is the title of the book, because I felt like we were really holding the line for the country until reinforcements could come, and thankfully were principled and very aggressive, and you were principled and very aggressive, which are the two, I think, quality to necessarily succeed in it, really in any job. But the reason I asked the question is because serving in the Senate is, you know, it's the highest level for a legislator. You travel to any country in the world. You go through the, you know,

diplomatic airport terminal, you get a motorcade. I mean, it's a big deal to be a U.S. Senator.

But it does seem like the center of gravity has shifted from the legislative branch to the

courts. I mean, it does seem like courts have more power than voters. I'm not,

will you flush that out a little bit? Yeah. I've had both jobs. Yeah, no, I think it is a,

and one of the reasons why I wanted to write the book was to, number one, lay out the landscape.

Because in that job, you saw, I saw, the threats that were coming from all

directions, from the highest levels of government and the censorship enterprise that was created by

Biden and big tech companies, to the local superintendent that somehow got bought into this

training that you divide every classroom by race

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