from WNYC Studios. I'm Brian Lehrer. This is my daily politics podcast. It's Monday,

March 30th. New Jersey Senator Cory Booker is here. There's new book, which we're going to give him a few minutes to lay out the ideas in, called

Stand that seeks to link virtues like patriotism and humility that might help bridge our partisan

divides.

Senator Booker, always good to have you on with us.

Welcome back to WNYC.

It's perfect to be back on with you, Brian. Thank you.

Knowing that you wrote a book called United a decade ago, in which I think you made a similar

case, does the message need to change now 10 years into the Trump era? I see you attended a No King's rally on Saturday.

Why not center that and the need to fight authoritarianism, you know, from your party's

perspective, more than bridging partisan devise, which might sound polyana-ish to some people?

Yeah, well, the book is definitely not centered on bridging parts and divides.

It's about elevating the truth of the best of who we are.

If anything, this is a book that is a recipe for how we fight and how we win,

because virtues actually are our greatest strength.

And a great example of that is, you know, we didn't beat Bull Connor and George Wallace

by bringing bigger dogs and bigger fire hoses.

They actually didn't double down on his hate and darkness.

They actually brought moral imagination that appeal to our nation.

They call it to the conscience of our country.

And time and time again in the book, I give examples of incredible fighters who were able to fight and persevere,

like a great woman named Jennifer Keelan Chafin, who threw herself out of her wheelchair at nine years old when the Americans

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