It's so weird that you guys don't no one's using headphones anymore because I think I think they're performative and no offense you use them. Oh no I like it's like my way to not get distracted. Oh my god no I think I'm like the first time we came in here to sit down and do it, I was like, do we need these? But then no one uses them anymore. When I, like when I asked people to use them, they're just like, really? I'm like, yeah, doesn't it? It makes you feel like you're in your own?

If I were, if we weren't in like a studio or someone else was like listening and making sure everything was fine,

then yeah, I'd want to like make sure that everything sounded okay, but now not having where I'm like,

I can't, I would be like too distracted by like my voice and how I sound I think I like to hear myself

I think that I like the way that I sound with all the other noise blocked out.

I think that's going to be a surprise to no one.

Who knows you that's listening to this?

Number one.

Number two, you always have fab hair, don't you feel like it like you have to make,

do you put it over your ears or do you wear it like a headband?

You know I go back and forth you know depending on how I feel that day whether it's a just

washed day or like a two day you know kind of hairdo yeah now I alternate.

It works for you or against you.

Yeah.

Well a couple times we've done Nix I like forgot they use them and then I like like my hair looks really good right now what am I supposed to do this isn't a like

pushback moment I don't want to project but don't you think that sometimes people

it's a little performative when they wear them they're like I don't I don't think

of it as performative I just think of it as like yeah I've never thought of it now I'm going to be insecure like a cycle this is this is my just performative this is my podcast equip

like that kind of thing yeah okay it honestly feels like a sacrifice because it makes us look fuglier.

So, performative, my ass.

I mean, it gives like Diane Sawyer a little bit.

I just think it's committal, but I think that you're doing it

...