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Catching Foxes

Self-Numbing Cultural Stasis and The Irishman

Catching Foxes

Luke and Gomer

Religion & Spirituality, Tv & Film, Christianity

4.7778 Ratings

🗓️ 22 November 2019

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

We do some follow up from last week’s insanely popular episode and Love and Respect by drawing out the difference between Feminization and Emasculation of the Church today. Then we pull out some great answers by our Patrons when we asked them, “What does Respect mean to you or look like?” Finally, we dive into our central topic: have we forgotten how to tell stories? The contemplative cinema of The Irishman is compared to mainstream superhero movies, and we ask if Netflix can play the role of Cinema Savior or Common Experience Destroyer. Check out the show notes for tons of additional content to watch.

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  • Why Martin Scorsese is Right About Marvel Movies — // Are Marvel Movies Cinema? // In this essay I explore Martin Scorsese' claim that Marvel films and other big budget franchise pictures are something different than classical cinema.
  • Jimmy Kimmel Live: Martin Scorsese on Working with De Niro, Pacino & Pesci on The Irishman — Martin talks about finally working with Al Pacino for the first time, making The Irishman, and he reveals how he and Robert De Niro got Joe Pesci to do the film.
  • The Irishman reviewed by Mark Kermode — Mark Kermode reviews The Irishman. An enforcer and hitman for the mob looks back on his life and his relationship with Jimmy Hoffa.
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  • ALAN MOORE WORLD * — What was the impact of popular heroes comic books in our culture? Why are people fascinated by alternative realities? I think the impact of superheroes on popular culture is both tremendously embarrassing and not a little worrying. While these characters were originally perfectly suited to stimulating the imaginations of their twelve or thirteen year-old audience, today’s franchised übermenschen, aimed at a supposedly adult audience, seem to be serving some kind of different function, and fulfilling different needs. Primarily, mass-market superhero movies seem to be abetting an audience who do not wish to relinquish their grip on (a) their relatively reassuring childhoods, or (b) the relatively reassuring 20th century. The continuing popularity of these movies to me suggests some kind of deliberate, self-imposed state of emotional arrest, combined with an numbing condition of cultural stasis that can be witnessed in comics, movies, popular music and, indeed, right across the cultural spectrum. The superheroes themselves – largely written and drawn by creators who have never stood up for their own rights against the companies that employ them, much less the rights of a Jack Kirby or Jerry Siegel or Joe Schuster – would seem to be largely employed as cowardice compensators, perhaps a bit like the handgun on the nightstand. I would also remark that save for a smattering of non-white characters (and non-white creators) these books and these iconic characters are still very much white supremacist dreams of the master race. In fact, I think that a good argument can be made for D.W. Griffith’s Birth of a Nation as the first American superhero movie, and the point of origin for all those capes and masks.
  • (13) Alan Moore talks to John Higgs about the 20th Century - YouTube — John Higgs - author of Stranger Than We Can Imagine: Making Sense of the Twentieth Century - talks to Alan Moore about how the 20th Century has been portrayed in his work - in particular From Hell, Providence and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen: Century. Alan Moore has described Stranger Than We Can Imagine as, "An illuminating work of massive insight... I cannot recommend this magnificent work too highly."

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0:00.0

Welcome to episode 219 of Catching Foxes. We do some follow-up from last week's insanely popular

0:09.9

episode about love and respect by drawing out the difference between feminization and emasculation

0:15.5

in the church today. Then we pull out some great answers by our patrons when we ask them,

0:20.2

what does respect mean to you or what does it look like to you?

0:24.2

Finally, we dive into our central topic today.

0:26.5

Have we forgotten how to tell stories?

0:29.2

The contemplative cinema of the Irishman is compared to mainstream superhero movies.

0:33.9

And we ask if Netflix plays the role of cinema savior or community

0:38.8

destroyer. Check out the show notes for tons of additional content reviews to watch.

0:44.0

Special thanks yet again to Catholic social. Media for sponsoring this show for like the sixth

0:49.0

week in a row. Thank you.

0:54.6

So one of the things that I wanted to do is have a follow-up, Luke, because our last episode about me having sex with Shannon and while I talked to myself, I think that was the most important part of that episode.

1:05.4

Got a lot of feedback.

1:07.1

Definitely the part that people really need to pay attention to.

1:10.6

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:11.1

Your poor wife, if she only knew, she has no idea.

1:14.1

No, I play all of these things for her.

1:16.9

She has no idea.

1:18.2

And then, but I play it for it while she's already asleep.

1:21.7

So, like, it's in her dreams, but that's all it matters.

1:25.5

No, she was going on.

1:26.6

I have a lot of weird dreams about luke it's very odd

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