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Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Self-Led Sexuality: Reclaiming Intimacy Through IFS with Patricia Rich, LCSW (299)

Therapist Uncensored Podcast

Sue Marriott LCSW, CGP & Ann Kelley PhD

Social Sciences, Society & Culture, Science, Education, Self-improvement, Relationships

4.71.5K Ratings

🗓️ 12 May 2026

⏱️ 80 minutes

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Summary

Sex can feel complicated when our parts get involved

Patricia Rich introduces the concept of self-led sexuality — approaching sexuality from curiosity, compassion, and connection rather than fear or conditioning. She explains how understanding our internal “parts” can help individuals navigate conflicting desires, deepen consent, and create greater safety within themselves and their relationships. Explore the complexities of sexuality, emphasizing the importance of self-led sexuality and the integration of Internal Family Systems (IFS) in sexual therapy. The conversation also examines the broader cultural forces that influence sexuality, including capitalism, gender expectations, and the silence many therapists themselves experience around sexual topics. Grounded in both clinical insight and humanity, this episode offers a refreshing framework for understanding sexuality as a space for healing, embodiment, and authentic connection.

“Listening to our desires doesn’t mean we have to act on them all. Simply acknowledging the parts of ourselves who hold those desires and validating their longings can bring inner connection and vitality.” – Patricia Rich, LCSW CST-S

Time Stamps for Bonus – Self-Led Sexuality: Reclaiming Intimacy Through IFS with Patricia Rich, LCSW CST-S (299)

01:51 The challenges of discussing sexuality
07:53 Integrating IFS into sexual therapy
13:39 The positive intentions of our parts
22:17 Self-led sexuality: Leading from within
28:01 Therapists’ relationship with sexuality
35:51 The six S’s of sexual self-energy
40:28 Creating Safety in Sexual Conversations
45:03 Exploring sensuality and its barriers
01:01:10 Exploring exiled parts and performance pressure
01:05:07 The concept of internal consent
01:11:36 Cultural influences on sexuality and self-perception

About our Guest – Patricia Rich, LCSW, CST-S (She/Her)

Patricia Rich, LCSW, CST-S (she/her) is an IFS Institute Certified Level 3 IFS Therapist and Approved Consultant and an AASECT Certified Sex Therapist and Supervisor. She has developed a unique integrative model for Self-Led Sexuality to help people findmore ease, joy, and confidence in the bedroom and beyond. She has originated IFS- informed concepts such as Internal Consent and The Six S’s of Sexual Self-Energy. Patty has presented at the IFS Annual Conference, taught a module for the IFS Institute Online Continuity program, led workshops internationally, and authored a chapter in Altogether Us: Integrating the IFS Model with Key Modalities, Communities and Trends. She offers training and consultation to professionals and loves helping people to BeHold and Lead their Internal Sexual Systems (BLISS)TM. She hosts “Self-Led in Bed: An IFS & Sexuality Podcast” and lives in the Philadelphia area where she also has a private practice. You can get her free guide to The Six S’s and learn more about her offerings at www.patriciarich.com or follow her on Instagram @patriciarichconsulting.

Resources for Bonus – Self-Led Sexuality: Reclaiming Intimacy Through IFS with Patricia Rich, LCSW CST-S (299)

Self-Led in Bed: An IFS & Sexuality Podcast – Patricia’s podcast

Patricia’s website – Information & resources

IFS Integration: A Comprehensive Guide to Applying Internal Family Systems Across Modalities, Populations, and Clinical Presentations – Check out Patricia’s chapter in this book


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Transcript

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0:00.0

I do adopt a very expansive notion of this life force energy and how we embody it and how we can

0:09.6

allow different levels of pleasure in different contexts and at different times.

0:15.8

And then one of the things I've based my model on is just like the eight C words that Dick Schwartz

0:24.7

came up with for self-energy was I came to the notion that self-energy also has sexual

0:30.8

qualities and this core self. And I call these the six S's of sexual self-energy. The idea is that when our system can

0:41.1

allow, you know, when our parts can relax, that this core energy we have has qualities of

0:47.0

being safe, sensual, spacious, sensitive, steamy, and satisfied.

0:56.4

Welcome to Therapist Uncensored.

0:58.7

Building on decades of professional experience, this podcast tackles neurobiology, modern attachment, and more, in an honest way that's helpful in healing humans.

1:07.6

Your session begins now with Dr. Anne Kelly and Sue Marriott.

1:17.4

Hey, you guys, while we know relationships are wonderful, they are also really hard.

1:23.8

Many of us believe that they shouldn't be, that if we have good connection and good communication,

1:28.3

things will just go smoothly. But it's really that belief that can make us feel stubborn and even

1:33.4

more hopeless. So relationships take work. It does for Sue and I. We can make it look easy. It's not.

1:40.1

And one of the ways is because many of us, we differ. We differ in what activates us, what makes us feel threat, the expectation. And it's these differences that are held in our body, not our thoughts. And they influence how we talk, how we love, how we fight. So holding that belief, if he or she or they could just understand me, if they love me, they do something different, is not really true.

2:02.1

And we're talking about relationships with your partner, your teenager, your mother-in-law.

2:08.1

So soon I've created an online course that can help you understand yourself and those you love

2:12.8

in a different way.

2:14.5

This is not just for therapists, it's for everyone.

2:18.7

Although the good news is if your therapist, you can get CEs along the way. This is not just for therapists, it's for everyone. Although the good news is if you're therapists, you can get CEs along the way, and all of you can use the visuals and the worksheets

2:24.6

individually, or you can even use them in your own private practice. So while the course is based on

2:30.4

our book, Secure Relating, Holding Your Own, an Insecure World. It is definitely not a replication of the book.

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