Four seasons, over 30 incredible guests, hundreds of podcast recommendations.

I'm your host Laura Whitmore, and in this special series of Castaway, we'll bring you the best bits from our back catalogue,

sharing those golden castaway moments and

throwing in those bingeable podcast picks we're all hungry for along the way. Welcome to castaway,

the best bits. I've always said how much easier it is to open up and speaking on a long form podcast

and you know I'm a real believer in the power

that podcasts can have in making you feel less alone I mean so many of the podcasts that have been

discussed on castaway have helped our guests through their darkest or most difficult times

and so today's episode is dedicated to those powerful conversations and all things self-help.

First of all, let's hear what model and actress and podcaster Daisy Lowe had to say when she came on the show about one of her favorite podcasts on the matter, Fern Cotton's Happy Place.

I want to talk about a podcast I'm a massive fan of, and that's Fern Cotton.

I love her anyway.

And I've always been a huge fan.

From someone who grew up watching her on television and the transformation and the risk.

I remember I was doing a play and I called over to Fern for a cup of tea. And I remember thinking, oh God, like, what will people think? Or like, what's she doing now? Or who does she think she is that she's going to do this play? Because no one knows, you know, you've got a drama background or whatever. And Fern, oh, I just think she's great. Because she says, I don't want to do the same thing all the time. No, me neither. You've got one life. And, and, you know, at the time she was just, the first book, I think, had come out of that stage, the happy book. But it was before the podcast and before the festivals. And I remember her, you know, I looked at her and I was like, this is something that she's had to deal with as well.

And people are always going to judge you and someone's always going to have an opinion.

But at some point you have to follow your heart and say, screw the rest of you.

Totally.

But I think that, look, when I started out for short, like you had to pick your lane and stay in it.

But throughout my career for the past 13 years, I've really seen such a huge change.

I think social media is hugely responsible for that, but you can do whatever you want now.

And actually, it's actually far more interesting to have a few different facets.

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