I'm Gail Straub and you're listening to She Explorers.

I didn't actually start talking about self-defense in the outdoors until 2019 and that's after I had been teaching self-defense for about six years at that time.

I had been traveling and adventuring my whole life.

And I had had friends and family over the course of a couple of years leading up to 2019,

telling me that I should put them together and I was just always very

resistant because I felt like I needed to keep the two separate like I couldn't

join the passions together I didn't think that it would fit and I had a friend that really kind of pushed me and just told me you know what this is you

just need to do it like stop thinking about it stop talking yourself out of it just

do it and it was that kind of kick in the pants that I needed to

push me to actually create outdoor defense.

When I put the two together and I saw how it resonated with people, then I knew that that was the right choice.

This is Nicole Snell. She's a solo adventurer, a hikely with Black Girls

Trekkin, a self-defense expert, and more.

My name is Nicole Snell.

My pronouns are She Her, and I'm the CEO of Girls Fight Back.

I'm an international speaker.

I'm a self-defense instructor, and I created the series Outdoor Defense,

which came from my passion of hiking, adventuring, and traveling, and my passion for empowering

others with self-defense. Nicole's outdoor defense series includes videos about subjects like tools to address

cat calling, the phrase I'm sorry, safety while camping, and asking for help.

By putting her two passions together, the outdoors and self-defense,

Nicole is uniquely addressing a very real need for all people,

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