Self Compassion in Anxiety Recovery (Episode 145)
Disordered: Anxiety Help
Josh Fletcher and Drew Linsalata
4.9 • 665 Ratings
🗓️ 20 February 2026
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
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This week we're discussing the relationship between anxiety and self-compassion. Self-compassion is often dismissed as a way to avoid difficult tasks or "whine" about struggles, but it is actually a functional part of the desensitization process.
Drew shares how he originally viewed self-compassion as a weakness that would lead to more avoidance, only to realize that berating himself was not actually an effective motivator. Josh explains how a lack of self-compassion can lead to "re-sensitization" when you turn recovery into a performance you have to perfect.
What We Discuss:
- The "No Self-Compassion" Mistake: Why driving yourself with brute force and criticism often backfires
- Accepting The Current Version of You: The importance of acknowledging that you are currently afraid or avoidant without berating or rejecting yourself for it.
- Self-Compassion vs. Coddling: Distinguishing between being kind to yourself while doing hard things and using "kindness" as an excuse to stay on the sofa.
- Navigating Misunderstanding: How to handle friends or family who do not understand anxiety disorders and the importance of validating your own experience instead of waiting for them to do it.
Recovery requires the flexibility to be afraid and move forward simultaneously. Using self-compassion means letting the scared version of yourself into the experiential classroom so you can actually learn the lessons found in acceptance, tolerance, surrender, floating, and exposure!
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| 0:00.0 | But I did right, no days off, no self-compassion. |
| 0:04.5 | That was not correct. One of the obstacles, I think, to applying the principle of self-compassion is a belief that berating yourself or criticizing yourself is good. It's not. I don't think it's ever good. Self-compassion might be like, you don't need to analyze everything you're doing. You know what? Give yourself a pat on the back and a reward. It's usually the opposite of what that strong inner critic wants you to do. They will criticize how they feel and |
| 0:27.8 | what they think. And then I was wondering why I couldn't desensitize again. And the missing ingredient was |
| 0:33.5 | I wasn't being compassion. Job one and self-compassion is to be able to be whatever version of yourself you are right now. |
| 0:40.3 | If you don't at least acknowledge that in this very moment, |
| 0:43.2 | I am a frightened avoidant version of Drew, |
| 0:45.7 | then he can't ever move forward because then you don't let that version into the classroom. |
| 0:53.3 | Welcome to Disorder. This is episode 145. Today we're talking about self-compassion and what it sort of looks like in the context of anxiety recovery or the desensitization process. I am Drew Lin-Salada. I am a therapist practicing in New York that specializes in the treatment of anxiety and anxiety disorders. Surprise. That's what we talk about on disordered. Former sufferer of these very problems, an author, psychoeducator, clearly a podcast, |
| 1:14.6 | host social media guy. And yeah, I'm joined today, as always by. I'm Joshua Fletcher, also known |
| 1:22.0 | as anxiety, Josh. I'm a psychotherapist and author who specializes in the world of anxiety and anxiety disorders. |
| 1:29.3 | I write about it. Do podcasts about it. Yeah, commit my working life to the topic. And I really enjoy it. And I appreciate you all for tuning in. Yeah, and happy we are that you do that too. Welcome back. So. Yeah. It's cool, man. What are we talking about today? We're talking about self-compassion. We've talked about it before. It is a good topic. I think it's a really important topic. It's getting more and more, I think, airtime, which is good. People are talking about it more. But we often get questions. And by the way, thanks to our friend Cheryl, who sent in an audio message to us at Distorted.fm to request this. So let's do it. I think we get questions about like, but where does that fit in? Like how do you do self-compassion? Like what does it look like? So maybe we'll get a little more practical about the application of the self-compassion principle today. |
| 2:18.1 | Okay. |
| 2:18.8 | Yeah, what do you think? |
| 2:23.0 | Should we start with a did-it-it-any way first to get people all amped up and ready to go? What brilliant way to start by doing, celebrating people's wins. |
| 2:26.8 | 100%. |
| 2:27.3 | That's a compassionate thing, isn't it? |
| 2:28.9 | Yeah. |
| 2:29.1 | So let me just make sure that I am actually piping the video through. |
| 2:33.1 | Nope, see, I would have had it wrong. |
| 2:34.4 | So it's the awkward moment where I check my tech set up before I play. |
| 2:39.9 | Hi, Drew and Josh. |
| 2:40.9 | My name's Blake. |
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