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Self-Care with Churchill and FDR

Gaslit Nation

Gaslit Nation

Trump, Politics, Left, Democracy, Resistance, News, Society & Culture, Progressive, Liberal, Kendzior, Chalupa, Resist

4.84K Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2024

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Self-care is an act of resistance, especially when the fate of the free world depends on you. In the latest episode of Gaslit Nation, Andrea interviews Robert Schmuhl, author of Mr. Churchill in the White House. Their conversation reveals the fascinating dynamics between White House roommates Winston Churchill and Franklin D. Roosevelt during World War II. It also delves into the debate: did Churchill really see Lincoln's ghost?

Two of the most powerful men of the 20th century, with towering egos and differing leadership styles, shared space in the White House during one of the most tumultuous periods in history. How did they manage? By treating self-care as sacred—a vital lesson for us today as we face a new era of America First and the rise of global fascism.

Schmuhl takes us behind the curtain, exploring Churchill’s struggles with depression and the personal toll of war. The episode doesn't shy away from darker aspects, including Churchill’s role in the Bengal Famine. It’s a thoughtful, nuanced look at two men who shaped the world, yet weren’t immune to their own flaws and the overwhelming challenges they faced to liberate Europe and overcome the isolationism at home driven by fascist-aligned America First. Sound familiar?

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The song featured in this week’s episode is “Free” by Aaron Espe: https://open.spotify.com/track/3M7xHMsoIeNKLkrJ2wY4i6

Submit your song to be featured on Gaslit Nation: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeS7TftV6Vfnw-iasFLepL6FpIj_KFORDLrAlZGH3nLg7i8lA/viewform

Mr. Churchill in the White House The Untold Story of a Prime Minister and Two Presidents https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324093428

Due to the Christmas Eve holiday and the coziness of this conversation--it's a perfect one to listen to around the fire or while wrapping presents--we're publishing this episode a bit earlier than usual. Happy holidays! 

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Thank you. Above the sky Below the sky

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Below the sea

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Anywhere you really

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want to be

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That's how far you can go. That's how much you can know. You're free.

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The song you just heard was Free by Aaron Espy, who wrote it for his four sons. What a beautiful song.

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Thank you for your music, Aaron.

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To find free by Aaron Espy, check out the show notes for this week's episode for a Spotify link.

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If you have a song to share in Gaslit Nation, submit it in the link featured in our show notes. Welcome to Gaslit Nation. I am your host, Andrea Chalupa, a journalist and filmmaker,

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and the writer and producer of the journalistic thriller, Mr. Jones, about Stalin's genocide

1:34.4

famine in Ukraine. The film The Cromland doesn't want you to see, so be sure to watch it.

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Churchill and FDR had the weight of the world on their shoulders, but even those anti-fascists, or

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Antifa, as we like to call them, had to find time to relax in an age of America-first gaslighting.

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This week's guest shares Churchill and FDR's self-care secrets and how these two giants

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inspired each other. In a conversation recorded shortly before the election,

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this week's guest is Robert Schmull, author of Mr. Churchill in the White House, the untold

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