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Welcome to Kindled Podcast.

I'm your host, Haley Williams, and this is the show where we talk about work,

motherhood, and the grace we need for both. We are making and being made. Come join us.

Well, hey guys, it's Haley Williams, the host of Kindled Podcast. Today, we're going to be hearing

from a friend of mine named Jamie McLaughlin, and Jamie has a really cool story.

She quit her full-time job to become an entrepreneur and pursue a passive income career

by teaching other women everything she knew about self-care.

Right up front, I have to say, self-care is one of those things that I struggle with because

I equate it with self-love, which is not really what it is,

but it's kind of how I've always felt about that term. But really what Jamie and I are talking about

today is abandoning the mom guilt that says that we don't deserve to take care of ourselves

or shouldn't really worry about what we are putting in our bodies or taking

mental breaks or doing anything for ourselves. Those things that can sound like selfless acts,

but often are really more about us creating an opportunity or a situation where we can pity

ourselves and really just be stuck and unhealthy

in both our mindset and even our physical bodies and then not be able to serve our family

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