This is The Tortoise.

The podcast, all about the possibilities of slow.

I am your host, Brooke McCallory, and I'm joined by my marriage host, Ben McCallory.

Oh, that's really sci-fi.

That's always kind of weird, isn't it?

This is not a podcast.

This is a podcast.

Sorry.

You'll get it one day.

I'm going pretty well.

I'm particularly stressed today.

There's a lot of deadlines.

There's a lot happening in work, life for both of us,

and we're tilting extremely almost to a vertical.

We're like sliding off the slippery dip, let's be honest.

Slippery dip. Csaw. Seesaw. So my energy is probably a little bit distracted, but it's perfect for this topic

because this topic's all about talking about self-care and it's something that I really need

to practice right now. So I'm, yeah, I'm looking forward to having a chat with you.

I think it's going to be a good one. Well, let's get into it. All right. So do you have a

definition for self-care, like how you would define it for yourself?

It was International Self-Care Day, probably about a month ago.

And I've got a group of men that I sit with once a month.

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