SELENA GOMEZ (with The New York Times' Joe Coscarelli)
Pop Pantheon
DJ Louie XIV
4.7 • 630 Ratings
🗓️ 6 January 2022
⏱️ 100 minutes
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Summary
On the premiere episode of 2022, DJ Louie first wraps up last year’s cliffhanger by finally placing Rihanna in the official Pop Pantheon. Then, Pop Music Reporter for The New York Times, Joe Coscarelli, joins Louie to talk Disney-Princess-turned-peculiar-pop-figure, Selena Gomez. First, Louie and Joe dig into just who Selena Gomez’s fans are, how Disney stars have transitioned into pop stars over the last two decades, and Selena’s rise to fame on her Disney show, Wizards of Waverly Place. They then break down the neutered “pop punk” aesthetic of Selena, Miley, and Demi’s music in the late aughts, Selena’s… um…. “band”, Selena Gomez and the Scene, and how their eventual turn towards synthetic dance pop led to her first crossover hit, 2011’s “Love You Like a Love Song”, and both Selena’s canny pivot towards adult stardom with her role in Harmony Korine’s controversial film, Spring Breakers, and her less successful one with her 2013 solo debut, Stars Dance. They then track how she eventually found a musical aesthetic following the one-two punch of the Lorde-and-Lana-fication of pop in the mid aughts along with her link up with songwriting duo Michaels and Tranter, the artistic revelation of her 2015 sophomore album, Revival, how she functions as a featured artist on late ‘10s hits like “It Ain’t Me” and “Taki Taki”, and each give their takes on her most recent record, 2019’s Rare. Finally, Louie and Joe debate Selena’s position in the official Pop Pantheon.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Pop Pantheon, the podcast where we completely overanalyze all your favorite |
| 0:17.3 | pop stars, then rank them in the official Pop Pantheon. |
| 0:20.8 | I'm your host, DJ Louis X. Louis X. |
| 0:23.0 | Welcome back to another year of this podcast. |
| 0:26.8 | I hope you all had a lovely New Year's, a lovely Christmas, a lovely break, a lovely breather. |
| 0:33.0 | I'm really happy to be back on the podcast Grind once again. |
| 0:39.3 | I'm trying out a new tagline. I'm cutting out the minute long intro here. |
| 0:41.3 | I kind of realized at a certain point that I know I kept referring to Pop Pantheon as fantasy football for pop. |
| 0:48.3 | I was having a conversation with a friend and I realized I don't really know what fantasy football is. |
| 0:54.6 | So I'm not sure if that was ever accurate. |
| 0:56.7 | Perhaps the intro to every episode of last year featured that inaccuracy. |
| 1:01.1 | But whatever. |
| 1:01.9 | It's my podcast. |
| 1:02.7 | I think I got the point across. |
| 1:03.7 | But we are moving on to a show with a tagline. |
| 1:07.5 | So that's change number one for 2022. Change number two is, as I always say, |
| 1:14.8 | please rate, review this podcast on Apple Podcasts and on Spotify. Spotify now has podcast ratings |
| 1:21.7 | and I really could use your help getting the podcast rated. I don't think they have reviews, |
| 1:26.1 | but just hit the five stars. It's easy. It takes five seconds. Really helps the podcast.. I don't think they have reviews, but just hit the five stars. |
| 1:27.7 | It's easy. It takes five seconds. Really helps the podcast. Thank you to everyone that's been doing that. |
| 1:32.7 | And yeah, Spotify listeners, hit five stars on that. Now, official business before we get into this week's |
| 1:39.5 | episode, we left on a cliffhanger last year about whether our last featured subject, Rihanna, was a tier |
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