You're listening to Song Exploder, where musicians take apart their songs and piece by piece, tell the story of how they were made.

I'm Rishikesh Herway.

Selena Gomez is a singer, songwriter, and actress who spent most of her life in the public eye.

She started her acting career as a child and put out her first albums as a teenager.

She's had three number one albums, eight top ten hits, and in 2017, Billboard named her Woman of the Year.

At one point, she was the most followed person on Instagram, and the details of her life

are constantly discussed in tabloid headlines.

So when your private life is that public, how do you write a song about something as personal as heartbreak?

Do I think my story intrigues people in a different way?

Obviously it does. It's unfortunately how it works.

But this song alone represents what a lot of people who are heartbroken have gone through.

For the song, Luzia to Love Me, Selena teamed up with the Grammy-winning production duo,

Matt Men and Robin. I should work with before.

And she turned to her longtime songwriting collaborators, Julia Michaels and Justin Tranter.

Julia Michaels is a Grammy-nominated artist in her own right, and Justin Tranter is also a Grammy

nominee, who is named BMI's pop songwriter of the year. Selena, Julia, and Justin have written

10 songs together, including Luzia to Love Me. The song came out in October 2019,

and went on to become Selena's first number one hit. It went double platinum in the US,

and was named one of the best songs of the year by Vulture and Billboard.

In this episode, Selena Gomez tells the story of how Luzia to Love Me was made.

I also spoke to Julia Michaels and Justin Tranter.

Selena explains why she worked with them for this song.

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