Selects: How Mail Order Marriages Work
Stuff You Should Know
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4.6 • 79.3K Ratings
🗓️ 4 October 2025
⏱️ 57 minutes
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Everybody knows mail order marriages are at best a last resort for jerks looking to boss a foreign spouse around or, at worst, a front for human trafficking. Or are they? Yes and no. Mail order marriage comes with nuance and a surprisingly long history. Learn all about it in this classic episode.
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| 1:33.7 | you get your podcast. You may not know this, but the original purpose of stuff you should know |
| 1:39.4 | was to change people's minds about mail-order marriages. And we certainly did with this episode. |
| 1:46.0 | We were so successful that we decided to keep the podcast going. |
| 1:50.0 | I'm just kidding for those of our listeners who have trouble detecting that kind of thing. |
| 1:54.0 | What is true is that it's a surprisingly interesting episode, |
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