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Seen and Unseen: The Moth Podcast

The Moth

The Moth

Arts, Performing Arts

4.625.9K Ratings

🗓️ 24 April 2026

⏱️ 38 minutes

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Summary

On this episode we play with the idea of being, and not being, seen. When not being seen or acknowledged shines a light on a deeper social construct - or when being seen can literally put your life in danger. This episode was hosted by Meg Bowles. Storytellers: Eliza Reid navigates her sudden, unexpected rise to becoming the First Lady of Iceland, a role with no handbook. As the Chief of Disguise at the CIA, Jonna Mendez breaks a cardinal rule and becomes visible To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Moth. I'm Meg Bowles. We hear this term, I feel seen often enough.

0:08.4

People jokingly say it when they find someone who shares an appreciation of something,

0:12.5

a mutual love of Argyle socks or fried pickles. But some people wish they could be seen in a deeper way,

0:18.2

while others hide in the shadows for their own protection.

0:21.6

In this episode, we play with the idea of being and not being seen.

0:26.6

When not being seen or acknowledged shines a light on a deeper social construct,

0:31.6

or when being seen, can literally put your life in danger.

0:35.6

Our first story comes from the writer, Eliza Reed, who lives in Reykjavik, Iceland.

0:41.2

She shared her story live on stage at the Union Chapel in London.

0:45.3

Here's Eliza Reed, live at the month.

0:52.8

One spring evening, back in 2016, I just finished cooking supper for my four kids who were two, four, six, and eight years old.

1:02.0

And the landline phone rings.

1:05.0

Now when the landline phone rings, that was usually either my mother-in-law calling from down the road in Reykjavik, Iceland, where I live,

1:13.6

or it was my own mother calling from the farm in Canada where I grew up.

1:18.6

But on this occasion it was neither.

1:20.6

It was a man who identified himself as a pensioner in a remote northwestern part of the country.

1:28.3

And the man told me that he had been watching my husband Goodney on television that day.

1:34.3

And he was so impressed with what Goodney had to say that he just thought he would call and pass on the message

1:41.3

that he thought Goodney should run for president of Iceland. Now, the news in

1:49.0

Iceland that day was dominated by something called the Panama Papers scandal, which you may

1:53.8

remember was this scandal that involved various offshore tax havens and global leaders or their

1:59.7

families. And in Iceland, our prime minister at the time and his family were implicated in this scandal

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