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Twenty Thousand Hertz

Seeing Sounds, Tasting Names: The world of synesthesia

Twenty Thousand Hertz

Dallas Taylor

Design, Music, Music Commentary, Arts

4.94.5K Ratings

🗓️ 13 January 2021

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

Synesthesia is a neurological condition where one sensory experience gets combined with another, meaning someone might hear sounds when they eat, or see colors when they listen to music. So what exactly is synesthesia? And what’s it like to go through life with these unique sensory connections? Featuring the voices of neuroscientist Dr. Richard Cytowic and five people with synesthesia. Twenty Thousand Hertz is produced by Defacto Sound. Subscribe on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to see our video series. If you know what this week's mystery sound is, tell us at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠mystery.20k.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Support the show and get ad-free episodes at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠20k.org/plus⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Dallas on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠TikTok⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, ⁠Facebook⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Join our community on ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reddit⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Get your first month of hair loss treatment for free at keeps.com/20k. Check out Dr. Richard Cytowic’s work at cytowic.net. Check out Joel Salinas's book Mirror Touch: A Memoir of Synesthesia and the Secret Life of the Brain. Episode transcript, music, and credits can be found here: https://www.20k.org/episodes/synesthesia Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You're listening to 20,000 Hertz.

0:03.7

I'm Dallas Taylor.

0:08.3

The name Dallas Taylor is pink, yellow, and blue to me.

0:13.6

And Taylor, for me, is purple and orange and pink.

0:17.2

The sound of Dallas Taylor's voice is a blue to black and very, it's very sparks.

0:26.0

Sparks across my chest.

0:28.0

But it has a softness to it.

0:30.2

It's not like a sharp, it's like a soft spark that kind of pops as he speaks.

0:34.5

The name Dallas Taylor tastes like a chip with some meat on it and dinner rolls.

0:44.1

The people you just heard have a neurological condition called synesthesia. People with synesthesia

0:49.7

called synesthetes experience sounds, tastes, and even numbers and letters in combination with

0:55.6

their other senses. So, for example, taste might have a color, or hearing a song might produce a

1:01.3

physical sensation on their skin. Or a name like Dallas Taylor might taste like a chip with

1:06.2

some meat on it, and dinner rolls.

1:15.6

Synesthesia may sound unusual, but it's actually more common than you might think.

1:20.2

Studies suggest that as many as one in 25 people have some form of it.

1:25.5

We know a fair amount about it now, but for a long time, scientists weren't even sure that it existed.

1:30.3

Back in the 70s, when I started with this, you know, the dogma at the time is that we had

1:36.3

five senses that traveled along single tubes, as it were, and there was no mixing between

1:43.3

the two. I mean, that was the dogma.

1:45.0

That's neurologist Richard Citoic.

1:48.0

Before the word synesthesia was widely known, he stumbled across the term, by chance, in the med school library.

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