Seeing Nature as a Gardener (Part 2) With Cassidy Steele Dale

Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Center for Action and Contemplation

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8 • 748 Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2024

⏱️ 30 minutes

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Summary

How do you think our personal beliefs and values shape the way we see the world? In this episode, as we continue to explore the theme of learning to see nature as a gardener, Brian explores the concept of worldviews with futurist Cassidy Steele Dale. They delve into the "Knight" and "Gardener" perspectives, examining how these contrasting ways of seeing the world impact our relationships, our faith, and our approach to global challenges. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. The Knight and the Gardener: The e-book is available here. Combat Theology: Cassidy's e-book exploring how religious strain can turn toxic and how to undo that process is available here. Think Future: Cassidy's Substack, where he shares insights about the future can be found here. Life After Doom: The new book by Brian McLaren can be found here and wherever books are sold.

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0:00.0	In our last episode of Learning How to See, we considered how we see nature, this beautiful,
0:07.6	natural world of which we're part, how we see as gardeners, people tending and caring for
0:14.1	on the earth. In today's episode, we're going to continue that theme, but we're going to
0:20.5	hear from a futurist
0:22.2	who in his studies of the future has come to the conclusion that there are really only two ways
0:29.3	to see the earth, to see our role in this world and to see our future. One is as a warrior or a knight who's out to do battle,
0:40.1	and one is as a gardener who's out to nurture life,
0:45.0	nurture health, nurture well-being.
0:48.4	So I invite you, now as we consider how to see nature,
0:52.8	we'll go even deeper in seeing nature as gardeners.
1:07.8	I have a blessing in my life I could wish upon everybody, and that is to have a friend who's a futurist, someone who's a professional, has done advanced graduate studies in trying to understand how to have foresight when we look at the future.
1:25.8	I actually have a few friends in my life who are
1:28.1	futurists, and today you're going to get to meet one of them. He describes himself as an optimistic
1:33.7	futurist, and that's especially helpful to somebody like me who can be a little bit gloomy and pessimistic
1:40.9	sometimes. I'd like to read you something he wrote recently.
1:46.9	He said, be the calmest person in the room.
1:51.7	Be the most stable.
1:54.3	Be the quietest at first.
1:57.8	Be kind.
1:59.3	Be hopeful.
2:00.5	Never give up. Make sense, have a helpful
2:04.8	perspective, and have the ingenuity and ideas to get everyone out of the
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