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Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Seeing Nature as a Doctor (Part 2) With Theresa Martella

Learning How to See with Brian McLaren

Center for Action and Contemplation

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality

4.8748 Ratings

🗓️ 24 May 2024

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Summary

How do you feel when you witness the destruction of creation? In this episode, Brian interviews Teresa Martella, an environmental scientist and spiritual ecologist, about the interconnectedness of ecology and spirituality. Together they discuss the ecological crisis, climate change, and the deep grief that comes with witnessing the destruction of the natural world. Teresa shares her personal journey of reconciling her scientific background with her spiritual beliefs and finding a contemplative practice to ground herself in the face of climate change grief. They explore the need for a shift in human relationships with the Earth and the importance of finding meaning and purpose in uncertain times. About Theresa: Theresa Martella is a spiritual director and spiritual ecologist who is skilled at listening deeply to you as you explore your spirituality in a non-judging and loving way. Theresa is a student of contemplative wisdom, having spent two years studying at the Center for Action and Contemplation under Richard Rohr and other great teachers of our time. She will complete her certification in Spiritual Direction at the Benedictine Spiritual Direction Training program at Benet Hill Monastery in Colorado Springs in August 2024. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. To learn more about Theresa's work, visit her website here.

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0:00.0

In our last episode of learning how to see, we talked about seeing nature as a doctor,

0:06.7

trying to diagnose and prescribe, come up with a therapy or treatment plan

0:12.0

when nature has been wounded by human activity and needs our help now to bring healing.

0:19.7

Sometimes the doctor has to get involved

0:23.6

in what we might call public health,

0:26.2

changing the conditions of how we humans live

0:30.3

so that our behaviors stop harming

0:34.2

the beloved natural world as we're doing now.

0:38.3

Today, we're going to meet someone who spent much of her career working in the federal government

0:45.2

to bring protection to vulnerable places on the earth, places that have been diagnosed as under threat.

0:56.7

Of course, today, it feels like the whole world is under threat in so many ways. But I think you're going to benefit from

1:02.6

understanding how it's not only scientists and ecologists and conservationists, but it's also people

1:10.5

who are involved in government

1:12.3

who play a key role in helping us see

1:15.1

how precious this world is

1:16.9

so we can save it and protect it and love it and cherish it.

1:24.1

When I was a little boy, I remember, especially in the spring and in the summer,

1:34.1

whenever our family would take a long drive, especially in the late afternoon or early evening,

1:41.8

our windshield would be covered in the remains of little splattered bugs.

1:49.0

And a couple of years ago, I noticed I just don't see that many bugs anymore. I don't see that many bugs anywhere.

2:00.0

And I realize I've lived long enough,

2:04.4

and the change has happened gradually enough, that I didn't even notice that there's been a huge

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