Welcome everyone to Family Talk. It's a ministry of the James Dobson Family Institute, supported by

listeners just like you. I'm Dr. James Dobson, and I'm thrilled that you've joined us.

Well, welcome back to Dr. James Dobson's Family Talk. I'm Roger Marsh.

Have you ever wondered what it's like to be a Christian in Washington, D.C., to work in the corridors

of power while staying true to your faith? Well, on the last edition of Family Talk, we met Mark

Johansen, whose decades in military service took him from the Air Force Academy to the Pentagon.

But his real story isn't about his impressive career. It's about bringing Jesus into every room

he entered, even when that meant standing alone. On today's edition of Dr. James Dobson's family

talk, Gary Bauer, our senior vice president of public policy here at the JDFI, will

continue his conversation with Mark Johansson, and Mark's going to share about meeting his wife

Sherry at a wedding reception with possibly the worst opening line you've ever heard. This is going to be

great. And yet, God used that awkward moment to launch what became a 45-year marriage that would inspire everyone

around them. You'll also hear how they navigated seasons of heartbreak together, always keeping

their faith at the center. Mark and Sherry's story is a beautiful reminder of God's faithfulness

through every season of life. So now let's rejoin Gary Bauer and Mark Johansson on today's edition of Dr. James

Dobson's Family Talk.

So, well, Mark, here we are for day two of telling your great story of service in government

and incredible positions, but also your service to

our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. So we're glad you could be here again today.

Well, amen. I'm glad to be here as well, and especially to talk about the ability or the

pleasure or privilege of serving the Lord within government. And so I have,

I think we got some interesting stories to talk about it. No question about it. So let's get right

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