Welcome to a weekend bonus episode of the Tech Mem Ride Home. I'm Brian McCullough.

Hope you all are having a lovely Sunday. I wanted to talk to Dave Bitner this week of CyberWire because the CyberWire family

of podcasts are my go-to source for keeping up with the security space in general.

And I'm glad I did get to speak to Dave because he's a super knowledgeable pro.

And we get into things like those huge credential dumps recently password best practices and that

triteen virus that has me so worried but we started off by going on a weird

tangent about Facebook where I somehow found myself arguing for Facebook for some reason and we ended by going really off the rails and talking about the Fermi paradox and aliens.

It ended up being a really fun chat I think. Please check out the CyberWire

Podcasts wherever you get your pods. Enjoy.

I guess what everybody is talking about today vis-à-vis Facebook is that they say

they've got to set aside X number of billion dollars to pay an expected FTC fine and yet the stock goes up and investors are cheering.

I'm not surprised by that are you?

I'm not surprised by that are you? I'm I'm not surprised by it but I would say I'm disheartened by it

That that is the that is the cold calculation that is made by investors these days that I guess removing

consideration of whether something or not is the right thing to do. It's really how is this going to affect our bottom line and I

suppose you can make arguments that that is what they are supposed to do but just you

know for me personally I find that a little bit distressing.

Well, I mean, you have to understand the psychology of the investor class and it's all about

okay, you know, removing risks, unknown unknowns and things like that so essentially what what

Facebook telegraphed is the size of the fine so that in an investor's mind

okay this is a quantifiable thing that I know about and so it's not an unknown

out there so right that's the thing you yeah it's it's it's an it's instructive to

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