Hey folks, Joyce Vance here.

This election season has seen a record-breaking number of voting and election-related cases

filed in courts across the country, and it's just getting started.

That's why I'm thrilled that Mark Elias is joining me on today's episode of the

Cafe Insider Podcast while Preet is out.

Mark is one of the nation's foremost election attorneys. He's served as election

counsel on multiple presidential campaigns, including the Kamala Harris campaign

where he's focusing on potential recounts, post-election litigation, and challenging voter suppression laws

across the country. Today Mark joins me to unpack the election lawsuits that may

shape this year's election. If you're a member of Cafe Insider, head over to the insider feed or click the link in the show notes of this podcast to listen to the full analysis.

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Interesting, you point out that most of these cases being brought pre-election or by the Republican Party or associated interests.

Do you think that holds up in the post-election?

Who do you think will be filing cases then?

Well, look, I mean it certainly after 2020 we saw

Donald Trump and his allies file more than 60 lawsuits and they lost all but one

of them so history suggests that you know Donald Trump when he was a businessman he

idolized lawyers who brought large numbers of frivolous lawsuits and use the court system as a way to bludgeon his business opponents.

And he has certainly replicated that as a candidate where he views, you know, you may remember in 2016,

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