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hunters. security today. Hi and welcome to SpyCast. From the secret files of the International Spy Museum in Washington, D.C.

I'm Dr. Vince Houghton, the Museum's historian and curator.

Every week, the museum brings you interesting conversations with authors,

scholars, and practitioners who live in the world of global espionage.

Join us as we take a closer look at the secret world of intelligence.

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We are grateful you are in the Spycast family. Blue Apron, a better way to cook.

So we're joined today by Charlie Mitchell, who is the editor and co-founder of Inside Cybersecurity.

A website launched in 2013 is the first online news service dedicated to exploring the politics and policy challenges of securing cyberspace.

His writing focuses on congressional debates over cybersecurity, the landmark framework of Cybersecurity Standards

Crafted by the National Institute of Standards and Technology, policy ramifications

of major hacking events, and cyber developments in the Telecom Energy, Financial,

and other sectors.

He is the former editor-in-chief of Roll Call.

For those inside the Beltway,

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