Well, first of all, my role is to call balls and strikes and to give a voice to half or more

than half or even sometimes like 80% of the country on the issues of the day.

CNN political commentator Scott Jennings talking about his presentation at the 2025 issues,

etc., making the case conference.

I think what CNN is doing in particular with the 10 o'clock show.

It's a real debating show and you're putting people at the table who have diverse viewpoints,

including conservative viewpoints. I think our commitment to that, honestly, is good for American

political discourse. And my job is to robustly participate in that and give a whole bunch of

people out there who thought maybe the mainstream media was ignoring them or didn't care what they thought, somebody to represent, authentically represent their values.

You can meet and hear Scott Jennings making the case for an alternative voice in the mainstream media at this year's Making the Case Conference, July 18th and 19th,

at Concordia University, Chicago.

Learn more at Issuesetc.org. It is accepted as axiomatic that religion leads to violence.

You can ask the scholars, you can ask the atheist, you can ask the secular reshapers of our society,

they will tell you that, well, while religion has done some good things, it's also led to

massive wars, and it's just seedbed for violence and conflict. Where did this idea come from?

And is it true? Atheist Sam Harris says religion

is the most prolific source of violence in our history. Is that true? Especially in modern history.

Welcome back to Issues, etc. I'm Todd Wilkin, joining us to talk about secular violence in modern history. Dr. Thomas Howard,

he's Professor of Humanities in History and Phyllis and Richard Duesenberg, Chair in Christian

Ethics at Valparaiso University. He's author of the new book, Broken Alters. Dr. Howard, welcome.

Thanks for having me on. Let's define some terms here. What do we mean by secularism in this conversation?

Yeah, secularism is a complicated word.

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