I haven't found Costco travel to be great for the other types of travel that you can book through them, but the cars are pretty sweet.

Yeah, that's true. I know people that have booked their honeymoons for it. You know, if all you want is like fly and flop, it's great for that.

I like that. That's all I ever want. This should be my life.

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I'm Kyra Blackwell.

I'm Rosie Garan.

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Hey, pal. Hey pals.

Can I start off with a compliment?

One of the things I like best about you guys is the extent to which you have inspired me to travel more.

It's true. Really? That's a compliment that comes from the heart, but also from the fact that you guys, I feel like, are out and about. You're seeing the world, and it's really cool. Well, I wasn't able to see the world for a long time. I have kids, and they were little, and then the pandemic happened, and it's expensive to travel. But lately, I feel like I've been getting to go places. Yeah, I'm kind of the opposite. I have no responsibilities,

and I love to hop on a plane. It's a great. It's a privilege, and it also is a means, I think,

of personal growth. We're focusing on travel a bit this week on the Wirecutter Show, and our guest

today fits perfectly into that, I would say.

That's right. And, you know, Wirecutter, we cover a lot of travel gear. You can find all sorts of

reviews for travel bags and gear that put in your bags, all of that. But what we don't cover is the

actual sort of nuts and bolts of how to shop for travel, for your flights,

for your hotel rooms. And these are often the most expensive things when you're traveling.

So today we're going to talk with Elaine Glousack, who is the frugal traveler columnist at the New York

Times. And she is really a specialist in traveling well for less. And I have to tell you, I love Elaine's column.

I read it all the time.

I'm always kind of like following her from afar to see where is she going and how much is she spending on this trip?

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