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Secrets of Sourdough

Gastropod

Cynthia Graber and Nicola Twilley

Science, Food, History, Arts

4.73.5K Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2017

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

Today, you can find a huge variety of breads on supermarket shelves, only a few of which are called “sourdough.” For most of human history, though, any bread that wasn’t flat was sourdough—that is, it was leavened with a wild community of microbes. And yet we know surprisingly little about the microbes responsible for raising sourdough bread, not to mention making it more nutritious and delicious than bread made with commercial yeast. For starters, where do the fungi and bacteria in a sourdough starter come from? Are they in the water or the flour? Do they come from the baker’s hands? Or perhaps they’re just floating around in the foggy air, as the bakers of San Francisco firmly believe? This episode, Cynthia and Nicky go to Belgium with two researchers, fifteen bakers, and quite a few microbes for a three-day science experiment designed to answer this question once and for all. Listen in for our exclusive scoop on the secrets of sourdough. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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It's really good.

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It's really good.

0:03.0

It's okay, I'm gonna have to.

0:04.0

I know I need to have some more tea.

0:06.0

I'll join you in that.

0:08.0

How could I not?

0:10.0

It's so good.

0:11.0

It's a worm and yummy.

0:12.0

I'm gonna taste some of this.

0:14.0

Oh, Nikki.

0:15.0

Hot pita with garlic butter.

0:17.0

It's really good.

0:20.0

Welcome to an episode of Carb lovers Anonymous.

0:23.0

Not so anonymous, Nikki.

0:24.0

They know who we are.

0:25.0

I'm Cynthia Grieber.

0:26.0

And I'm Nicola Twilly.

0:28.0

And this is actually Gastropod, the podcast that looks at food through the lens of science and history.

0:33.0

And Cynthia and I are the not so anonymous Carb lovers.

0:37.0

We spent three days in Belgium with two scientists and more than a dozen bakers.

0:41.0

We were in theory investigating a deep scientific question about bread, but actually we were eating our body weight in bread and Belgian waffles.

0:50.0

Nikki, I'm still much or I can forgive you for encouraging me to eat that second hot lehège waffle.

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