Hello and welcome to the psych legal pop podcast. I'm Tess Brigham. I'm a psychotherapist and I'm here as always with my sister Brooke.

Hello. This is Brooke and I'm an attorney. So today we are talking about Playboy and different aspects of Playboy. We've been watching the secrets of Playboy. And different aspects of Playboy, we've been watching the

Secrets of Playboy documentary that's been on A&E. I've made it eight episodes without

wanting to just off myself, because it's the most awful awful awful thing you will ever see.

Brooke made it to about three episodes.

But we were inspired to talk about this actually because two of the former half

girlfriends, Holly and Bridget are doing a new podcast called Girls Next Level.

And we've been listening to it and really loving it.

So we're just excited to be able to talk about them and their story and how that

weaves into Playboy.

Yeah, we start we started out by listening to the podcast and we're like, wow, you know,

this is interesting.

I never watched the show.

Oh, you didn't? Oh, no. It was a great show. I've since watched a couple episodes on YouTube, but I wasn't familiar with them. I just know them from, you know, they're part of the cultural psychist. And listening to them, I'm like, wow, you know, they're interesting women. They're talking about this.

And so then that's what led into watching this, what is it called? The Secrets of Playboy,

which is so dark. It's 12 episodes of the most dark, dark, disgusting, disturbing things ever.

Yeah.

I don't know if there's anything.

I mean, it's probably, I mean, I don't know.

I don't know if maybe the John Wayne Gacy documentary was just a little bit darker than this.

But this was dark.

And it, you know, it just made me realize I really, I really didn't know anything about

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