Hello, this is the Red Box Podcast. I'm Matt Chauley, back from the concerted party

conference in Manchester, but still carrying a conference cult. You can listen to me live

10-to-1 Monday to Friday on your DAB radio, on your smart speaker, or download the Times

Radio app, but you know that already. Coming up on today's episode, we're just going

to put all the party conference stuff to one side, because there's been quite a lot of that.

We know that I've had a really, really fascinating tour of the old war office building on Whitehall.

It opened in 1906. It's where the first and the second world wars were fought from the the

boardrooms, the offices, and the little spy corridors. And then in the 1906s was shut up.

It's been behind hoardings ever since. It's now been turned into an amazing hotel,

and I got a talk to be able to hear that in just a moment. Someone did that, but first,

it's time for these two. Manvine Rana, and someone called Matthew, on Times Radio.

That manvine is here. Hello, manvine. Hello. And this week's Matthew's Matthew Powers.

Hello, Matthew Powers. I feel like we need to rename this feature to what's

Manvine bought in this week, which is delicious. So we've got doughnuts for the last few weeks,

but this is an upgrade. I thought we were bored of doughnuts. So what is this?

That's not great. Are we calling it an upgrade? That's brave. I'd bake. I'd bake.

Of course it's not great. You've made it yourself. I mean, you say that.

I don't think it's as good as a professional doughnut. This is nice though. It's cake.

So it's cake with raspberries, isn't it? With raspberries in it. And

and a bit of amoretibus. Well, there we are. Is it an ultra high process? Do you think?

Well, I made it so no. I think if you bought it, it would be.

Have you not had any method? Yes, I have. Of course, I will find out in 10 seconds.

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