Secrets Of Ancient Concrete, And... Data Centers In Space?
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🗓️ 14 January 2026
⏱️ 18 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, I'm I Refledo, and you're listening to Science Friday. If you've listened to the show for a while, |
| 0:09.6 | you know that one of my favorite topics is concrete, really. And some of my favorite examples of the |
| 0:16.2 | long-term durability of concrete are from the Romans. Take the Pantheon and all those famous aqueducts |
| 0:23.5 | built thousands of years ago and still standing. But how exactly was this concrete made? |
| 0:30.8 | And what ingredients went into the cement? That knowledge hasn't been very solid. Well, |
| 0:37.0 | late last year, scientists discovered an actual |
| 0:39.9 | cement mixing site in Pompeii, preserved in the volcanic ash, and it might hold clues to how we |
| 0:47.0 | can improve our concrete today. Here to uncover those secrets is Dr. Admir Mashich, Associate Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering |
| 0:56.6 | at MIT, and one of the co-authors on that study. Dr. Mashich, welcome to Science Friday. |
| 1:02.9 | Thank you for having me. Nice to have you. So you go to Pompeii and you make a discovery there |
| 1:10.0 | that changes about how they made their concrete? |
| 1:14.1 | Yeah, so the context of Pompeii is fascinating. |
| 1:19.4 | If you think about a city that 2,000 years ago was literally frozen in time by this eruption of Mont Vesuvius and then stayed preserved |
| 1:31.3 | till we excavated it, offers an incredible snapshot of what they were up to. |
| 1:39.3 | And interestingly, a year ago, archaeologists excavated an construction site, including very well-organized |
| 1:49.2 | construction materials like roof tiles or bricks and tools. So imagine literally an active construction |
| 1:59.6 | site that allowed us to walk through and understand from the |
| 2:04.7 | raw materials how they were mixed and prepared to be then used in construction. So imagine |
| 2:11.8 | people were building a house at the moment of eruption and literally stopped the operations and froze that |
| 2:20.3 | scene. |
| 2:22.6 | Then it felt literally like entering into Pompeii, 2000. |
| 2:27.3 | So it was for me, a time travel, literally. |
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