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Dan, welcome to the program.

I appreciate you joining us.

It's good to see you in this instead of like bumping into you in the field as a former correspondent, right?

It's crazy.

So listen, now you are a best-selling author, a podcast, or a mindfulness advocate.

You call yourself a self-proclaimed Buddhist and a happiness evangelical. I want to know

why the switch, but listen, I remember you, right? I remember you talking about, you know, this

panic attack that you had on television, but it took you a while to go from television to becoming

a self-proclaimed Buddhist and a happiness evangelical. Why the switch?

Well, there was kind of an overlap of, I wrote a book called 10% Happier,

and it came out 10 years ago.

And I mean, you could have made the case that I might have switched then,

because the book was reasonably successful,

and I started a podcast and a meditation app and whatever.

But I loved being a journalist, so I didn't really want to leave that.

And if I'm honest, I was very anxious and I still am anxious.

Sometimes people will say to me, you're very anxious for a meditation guy,

and I'm like, you have the causality wrong.

I'm a meditation guy because I'm so anxious.

And so I think that fear had me clinging to two jobs at once and it took me a long time

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