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This is the Tom Hartman program.

On the line with us are old friend Laurie Wallach, the director of the rethink

trade program at the American Economic Liberties project, also the senior advisor

to public citizens trade campaign, rethinktrade.org as the website.

Laurie, welcome back to the program. I understand from the press release that I got from you

a couple of days ago that these big tech firms that want to basically own artificial intelligence

and use it for their own purposes and whatnot really don't want to be regulated.

And they're trying to use some of these international trade deals to prevent that regulation.

Am I correctly understanding what you're writing about?

That's exactly right.

Is happening?

Is a play you have revealed from big corporations before?

This time it's the big tech sector that wants to use its lobbyists and its money

to rig trade agreements to basically handcuff Congress.

So that finally, as Congress and the Biden administration and the regulatory agencies

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