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Secret Tapes Of NRA Leadership Reveal Debate Of Post-Columbine Strategy

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🗓️ 10 November 2021

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

Following the Columbine shooting in April of 1999, top leaders of the National Rifle Association huddled in private to discuss their public response to the tragedy.

Secret tapes of those deliberations were obtained by NPR investigative correspondent Tim Mak. He explains what's revealed in the tapes: that the group considered a much different stance than the one it ultimately took — a stance that would help set the stage for decades of debate about gun violence in America.

Tim Mak is also author of the book Misfire: Inside the Downfall of the NRA.

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0:00.0

Just a heads up here.

0:02.0

We're going to start this episode with some news reports from April 20, 1999, the day of the Columbine shooting.

0:10.0

Good day, John Roberts from CBS News headquarters in New York with an update now on that school shooting at the Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado.

0:18.0

That day, two teenagers walked into their high school, armed with semi-automatic weapons and sawed off shotguns.

0:24.0

They fired a total of 188 rounds of ammunition.

0:28.0

Who did you see with guns?

0:30.0

We saw these two kids. They were white and they had black trench coats on.

0:38.0

You saw two students with black trench coats on holding guns?

0:42.0

Yeah, they were shooting people on stuff.

0:44.0

One teacher and 12 students were killed. The two teenagers responsible took their own lives.

0:50.0

This tragedy is about an hour and a half old now. Apparently the SWAT team has mobilized outside of the school.

0:56.0

In the days that followed, while those images were still fresh on TV, leaders of the National Rifle Association huddled in private.

1:04.0

They were Craig and the Mary were just showing me the hate mail that's coming into the building.

1:10.0

I don't know how much it is, but I got a stack here. It's pretty nasty. About 50 or 60.

1:18.0

This is a recording that has never been heard before.

1:22.0

NPR has obtained more than two and a half hours of tapes like it, where you can hear NRA officials debating their public response to Columbine.

1:30.0

The issue they grappled with, whether to move forward with their annual meeting, a massive and expensive conference scheduled only days later in Denver, just half an hour's drive from Columbine High School.

1:42.0

Here's the NRA's top official Wain La Pierre and lobbyist, Mary and Hammer.

1:48.0

We have meeting insurance. I just screw the insurance. The message that it will send is that even the NRA was brought to its knees and the media will have a field day with it.

2:04.0

Consider this. The NRA's response to Columbine helped set the stage for the next 20 years of debate about gun violence in America.

2:12.0

Now secret tapes reveal the group considered a much different stance than the one it ultimately took.

2:20.0

For NPR, I'm Mary Louise Kelly. It's Wednesday, November 10.

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