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This is the conspiracy show with Richard Sarant on Zuma Radio.

And welcome back. Mark Mirabella was with us.

We're talking secret societies.

Before the break, we were talking about the founding fathers and how many of them were

masons and whether, in fact, the formation of the United States was a Masonic plot.

And you were talking about how the vast majority of, was it, ministers, did not

support the revolution because, according to the edicts of, I guess, St. Paul, you know,

sort of went in Rome, not when in Rome, but render unto Caesar, right? That kind of idea?

Yes. And of course, St. Augustine talks about the kingdom of heaven is in the sky.

We don't worry about what's going on here on Earth very much.

Now, I should also mention that you also earlier, we mentioned Lucifer, Lord of Light.

The revolution comes out of the 18th century, Age of Reason, which tended to disparage religion

and traditional thought. And it seems as if what the early Freemasons, and they still

involved in this, they're talking about declaring war, if you will, on kings and altars. There's a secular aspect to Freemasonry

that's often minimized because they will take an oath to be a member of most lodges. You have to be

not an atheist, but that could just be a cover story. Keep in mind there's often everything

in secret-sacizing conspiracy theory, there's often, everything in secret societies, there's a

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