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On the Media

Secrecy at the Border

On the Media

WNYC Studios

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4.69.1K Ratings

🗓️ 27 February 2014

⏱️ 51 minutes

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0:00.0

This is on the media. I'm Brooke Gladstone. And I'm Bob Garfield. You regular listeners know that

0:07.5

freedom of information, a particular passion of ours, has lately become an obsession, and it's

0:13.7

fixated on the veil of secrecy that shrouds customs and border protection, the huge police force

0:20.4

guarding our borders.

0:22.2

We know we have fewer rights at the borders, but that's all we know.

0:26.2

We don't know what rights we retain or how they're attenuated by CBP policies under the

0:32.2

aegis of the Department of Homeland Security because we don't have access to that policy.

0:37.1

All we have are countless stories, countless because we don't have access to that policy. All we have are countless

0:38.6

stories, countless because we can't get the data, of dehumanizing detentions and

0:44.3

intrusions at the border that would seem to be unconstitutional anywhere else.

0:50.1

So we're devoting this hour to the Merck at the border, how we can penetrate it, and why we

0:56.9

ought to try. And since we don't have and can't get hard numbers, we'll use stories.

1:02.5

The first, the one that started us on this quest, you may have heard before. It's from

1:07.2

OTIM producer Sarah Abdurhaman, who was headed back to New York from her cousin's

1:12.1

wedding near Toronto when she was detained, along with a carload of family and friends,

1:17.3

for six hours, without explanation by U.S. Border Patrol agents at Niagara Falls.

1:23.4

Everyone in the car was a U.S. citizen.

1:26.6

Once we realized we wouldn't be leaving the border facility anytime soon, the giddiness we still had from the wedding weekend quickly disappeared.

1:34.1

Head started to slump between shoulders.

1:36.8

All conversations ceased.

1:38.4

I remember one point trying to fall asleep, but I was just so, so, so, so cold.

1:41.7

I couldn't do it.

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