Second Cup: Smile at 10
Before Breakfast
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🗓️ 23 May 2026
⏱️ 5 minutes
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Give yourself guidelines for how you'll interact with people
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast, guaranteed human. |
| 0:08.0 | Welcome to Before Breakfast, a production of IHeart Radio. |
| 0:13.2 | Good morning. This is Laura. |
| 0:17.8 | Welcome to the Before Breakfast podcast. |
| 0:32.0 | Today's tip is to smile at anyone in your orbit when you are within 10 feet of them and to greet anyone within 5 feet. |
| 0:39.9 | This rule of thumb can prompt you to be friendly without having to overthink what is appropriate. |
| 0:48.3 | Today's tip, like some others recently, comes from Robert Sutton and Huggy Rao's book, The Friction Project. |
| 0:58.0 | In this book, they share a tip from the non-profit health system, Oxner Health. According to the authors at Oxner Health, employees are expected to make eye contact and smile at a colleague or patient |
| 1:04.7 | anytime they are within 10 feet of each other, and to say hello to anyone within five feet. Now, when I first heard all this, |
| 1:15.1 | I found it a little strange. Does anyone really need a company policy that is so specific? |
| 1:23.7 | But I know that a lot of organizations expect staff to be friendly to colleagues and customers, but don't spell out what that means. |
| 1:33.4 | We all come to work with different backgrounds and different temperaments and different expectations. |
| 1:40.8 | Giving a general guideline means that people don't have to guess what being friendly would look like. |
| 1:49.0 | As long as no one goes overboard about this, like I sincerely hope people aren't being disciplined for not smiling until eight feet or something like that. |
| 1:59.0 | A rule of thumb like this can be helpful. |
| 2:03.8 | You might consider adopting such a rule of thumb in your own life, too. |
| 2:08.8 | I know I spend an unfortunate amount of bandwidth when I am out running or walking, |
| 2:15.1 | wondering when it is appropriate to wave to a fellow jogger, and then maybe |
| 2:20.7 | doing it too early, and they miss it, and then I either have to do it again or they think |
| 2:26.7 | I'm being rude, and you can see why I sometimes wind up on the treadmill out of sheer |
| 2:32.5 | awkwardness. But a rule like this takes the guesswork out of sheer awkwardness. |
| 2:37.5 | But a rule like this takes the guesswork out of these things. |
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