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Good morning. This is Laura. Welcome to the Before Breakfast Podcast.

Today's tip is about how to make more time for friends.

Most of us see our colleagues when we go to work. We see our families when we go home.

But getting together with friends can be challenging. We're so busy with everything else that

they tend to fall to the bottom of the list. And that's too bad because friends are a good use

of time. Indeed, good friends can make us feel like we have more time. A few years ago for my book

Off the Clock, I asked 900 busy people to track their time for a day. Then I asked them questions

about how they felt about their time. I found that the people who felt time was most abundant,

spent a far higher proportion of their time interacting with friends,

than people who felt time was scarce. And no, it's not because the people who saw friends

had less going on. People who felt starved for time had just as much leisure time as everyone else.

They simply spent more of it watching TV or on social media. The correlation was so strong

that I formed this theory. Being social makes time. Social media kills time.

So let's spend more time with friends and less time on social media, right?

I'm sure we could agree that this would be great, but of course there are reasons we drift toward

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